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    November 03

    Growling, Disaffected, Drug Fucked Young Men – I Can’t Tell Them Apart

    I got all nostalgic recently so decided to track down some of the music I listened to back when my hair was shoulder length and brown.  One of the bands I was then obsessed with was Stone Temple Pilots, a Seattle based 4 piece who enjoyed moderate mainstream success as far as that sort of thing can be measured from taping music awards shows and watching Rage. It is only with the benefit of the internet that I have discovered just how negatively ‘grunge’ audiences and ‘rock’ journalists received the band during their heyday.  Many regarded Stone Temple Pilots as weak, ‘grunge’ bandwagonists, desperately imitating both the lyrical content and musical style of ‘grunge’ giants such as Pearl Jam and Nirvana.  I was rather ignorant in those days of the rigid conventions music journalists were working with so perhaps they had a point, but I reckon many who condemned STP back in the early/mid 90s might want to compare their efforts to current crop of poncing try-hards which proliferate the ‘rock’ scene today and get some fucking perspective.

    Short Stack - keepin' it real

    Anyways, when I went to you know where to track down the MTV Unplugged performance of Stone Temple Pilots’ brilliant rendition of ‘Creep’, I was mortified—MORTIFIED— to see the amount of comments left on any uploaded version of the clip exclaiming the individual had always thought that STP’s ‘Creep’ was a Nirvana song called ‘Half The Man I Used To Be’.  It should be stated at this point that those individuals who wilfully exhibit their ignorance online aren’t normal people; these are internet people we are dealing with and as we all know (present company excluded) internet people aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed in terms of general knowledge and the application of logic.  So while it might—MIGHT—be possible for a couple of people to assume the line include in the chorus of ‘Creep’ (‘I’m half the man I used to be/this I feel as the dawn it fades to grey’) is the actual title of the song, and that some people might—MIGHT—struggle to discern Scott Weiland’s vocals from those of Kurt Cobain, I still cannot believe the sheer number of people who made (and continue to make)this same mistake.  I’m not talking one or two, either.  I have personally encountered anywhere between 7 to 10 different comments from different people responding to different videos of ‘Creep’ with: ‘I always thought this was a Nirvana song called ‘Half The Man I Used To Be’’, adding lol to the end of the statement in a feeble attempt to make the comment more digestible.  Seriously, how is it even statistically possible for so many people to fuck up so majorly?  For so many people to be similarly misguided one would have to assume that this apocryphal Nirvana song was a single.  Yet such is Nirvana’s enduring mainstream success that even the most pop-orientated listener could probably recite Nirvana’s entire music catalogue and notice that no song entitled ‘Half The Man I Used To Be’ exists within it.  So how/where the hell did the confusion first originate? 

    Anyways, here’s the video in question.  Notice how youthful /professional/attractive Scott Weiland was before all that unpleasantness (ie: Velvet Revolver).   

     

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    Hey, where is my 'Songs From The Vatican Gift Shop' cd anyway? Do you still have it? '
    Nov. 3
    The fact that I liked Nirvana and Stone Temple Pilots equally (ok, probably STP slightly more) meant that I wasn't particularly bothered when they were assessed beside each other back in the mid 1990s. It was all good, in my 13 year old opinion. Not being bothered by the music press at the time allowed me to enjoy the music without any bias. And yes, it shits me no end when people argue back and fourth about what band constitutes what music genre, especially when shit that is passed off as alternative or even rock sounds alot like bubble gum pop to me.

    I didn't like that 'Barbarella' (sp?) song off Weiland's solo album. I'm not sure how indicative it is of the rest of the album so I might save my money and check it out on beemp3 instead.

    And yeah, I personally don't hear the resemblance between Creep and anything Nirvana released which is why it blows my mind that so many people confuse the two. Maybe I'm just too discerning a listener after all.
    Nov. 3
    Phoenixwrote:
    Oh, and moreover, Creep sounds NOTHING like a Nirvana track!
    Nov. 3
    Phoenixwrote:
    I always knew that that was the deal with Stone Temple Pilots - Gifts from the Vatican Giftshop had that song "Adhesive Love" that was all about how the band had no credibility but also about how bullshit the music industry and the music-listening public is generally - I think because of the J-Files, maybe. I remember them implying that the reason Scott Weiland was a junkie was because he couldn't cope with being called an Eddie Vedder wannabe. To be fair, I'd probably get stuck into the horse, too, if people said that about me.

    The alternative/indie vs. mainstream/pop thing seems so fucking childish now. The only people who still think in those terms are kids who've just discovered Nirvana and NME journalists who create "What's Hot and What's Not" lists. If you look at metal videos on YouTube just look at the debates going "This isn't Death Thrash Metal! It's Speed Growl Metal!"; Here's a news falsh, fuck wits: those are labels made by bald 60-year old millionaire record comapany executives. Remember when "Independant" used to mean that a band wasn't signed to a big record company rather than a being a description for a certain sound? The fact that the sound of a supposedly anti-establishment movement became so generic and comodifiable that it was able to be bottled and marketed by Sony or EMI should be an indication of how bullshit these labels have become; and how being classed as "alternative" doesn't really mean that a band IS alternative. When Scott Weiland brought out his first solo album (which you should get by the way) it bombed DESPITE some critical acclaim because it was too "experimental". Right, it should have sounded more "mainstream" like Nirvana and Pearl Jam...

    And! I love that Velvet Revolver has more "cred" with music critics than Stone Temple Pilots even though it's made up of a bunch of millionaires churing out formualic rock to make even more money. What an absolute jaik!
    Nov. 3

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